To our friends across the seas re: Good manners and boring folk to death

To our friends across the seas re: Good manners and boring folk to death

Tony Barr

Should I conclude there was a point to your message !Other than your indifference to a profession and industry that cares enough about developing dialoge between O&P professionals ,your rudeness speaks with all the misconceptions of a third world country! And to think that cad cam technology was first developed in England!The consumer and the practitioner, still relies on U.S advancements in technology and professional expertise here! We are attempting to make it a better world for the physically impaired.Perhaps our foriegn friends could provide some input on how O&P care works in the UK and other countries.We are very receptive to learning of how your health care system and O&P policies function to benefit the profession and the consumer.We can all learn something from one another.
Get a grip .Try to help someone today in any way you can,and if can't do it alone ,we will be there for you ...again!

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Well said Grant Crosthwaite! Hear hear! Please, our American counterparts,
please put US Politics in the Subject so that those of us who don't think
that we need to be involved can avoid/delete that mail.
I have read a lot of it, but at times it seems to get just a tad petty and
repetitive and I seem to be reading a lot of rehashed history.
I value the need for debate...it is essential in a democratic group so I
would defend to the death your right to it....but please do not assume
that your outcomes are vital for the P&O professions elsewhere in the world.
Thankyou for the opportunity to voice my opinion.
Richard Ziegeler

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-----Original Message-----
From: Grant Crosthwaite < <Email Address Redacted> >
To: <Email Address Redacted> < <Email Address Redacted> >
Date: Thursday, 18 March 1999 12:10
Subject: Good manners and boring folk to death


>Dear Americans,
>
>What a self absorbed bunch you have demonstrated yourselves to be. You
>bore the non-Americans on the list rigid and when we dare to mention how
>tedious we find your introspection we get told to get off the list. I
>have written to some of you individually asking for you to observe
>netiquette and use tags in the subject line. This would allow those of us
>who fail to find the minutia of the US Political structures for O&P
>fascinating, to eradicate the relevant (or should that be irrelevant)
>messages. What responses have I had? Almost without exception those who
>responded assured me that your consolidation was of vital importance to
>everyone in the world not just those in the USA. This is not so!!
>
>Ask yourselves this: if this is so important why is no-one contributing
>to the discussion from outside the USA? It is because nobody else cares.
>This is not because those outside are myopic and are heading for disaster
>because they are not getting involved. It is because it does not matter
>to us and we prefer that you settle your own provincial problems by
>yourselves without involving the rest of us.
>
>Ask yourselves also whether you would welcome involvement/comment from
>those of us outside the USA. I think not. Just as I would be surprised if
>anyone practising in the States had anything useful to contribute to a
>similar discussion on reorganising Prosthetic/Orthotic care in the UK. If
>then you would not welcome any contribution from the rest of us why
>then is it so imperative that we should have to listen ad nauseum to the
>debate?
>
>I am glad the listmom has finally intervened (cheers Paul) and hope that
>we can expect a little courtesy in the future.
>
>Thank you for listening,
>
>Grant Crosthwaite
>