Responses to Genium/Cleg comparison
Michael Arnette
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Responses to Genium/Cleg comparison
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Michael Arnette
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2/19/2013
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Hello List,
Here is most of the answers which I received from my previous post, I
apologies for the horrific spelling in my original post below (posted from
my phone).
*My original post:*
I had a question regarding the Ottobock Genium. After fitting the cleg,
having tried others, I feel like I have a candidate it for the Genium.
With the simply outstanding performance from the Cleg.technology, I am
wondering what those who have used the Genium have to say about it's
performance over the Cleg for the unilateral patient. I think I may have a
shot at fighting for reimbursement with the patient's insurance. Is the
genium worth the fight for reimbursement on an active unilateral patient?
What exactly are the benefits you have seen? Also, what has been your
experience with getting authorization through private insurance ?
* *
*The answers:*
1)I have fit three Genium knees and my patients all liked it very much. I
would certainly contact your Otto Bock rep and have them send or bring in a
demo for you to test on that patient. It is all together different. I like
it very much. I have fit more than 50 C-legs since 2001 and several other
microprocessor knees. Again, a picture is worth a thousand words....your
rep should be more than willing to help you set that up. I would make a day
out of it and demo fit anyone else you have that may be a candidate now or
in the future. I actually got a loner Genium for a few days and demoed
several patients. If the patient is coming off a c-leg then you will need
to be able to accommodate the difference in the knee top angle...it's
pretty easy, but better if you're prepared to do that before you are right
in the middle of your first demo.
2)I've delivered a couple of Geniums and do not think that there is a big
difference between it and the generation 3 Cleg. It does have a unique
feature for ascending stairs and the software simplifies programing. It has
built in Blue Tooth, a longer battery life and very cool inductive charging
system. However, it makes electronic clicking noises, very quit but
audible. Its like the C-leg but on steroids. I will still choose the C-leg
for most AK's unless they need all the bells and whistles.
3)i am an ak and have used almost all the knee units from 1950 till now.
i used the c-leg for yrs, the genium, and now the new X2 leg just being
release this year. ps: (i make all my own legs, i'm not certified, and
why i make my own is another story which i will tell you later if your
interested)
the genium vs the X2 they are supposed to be about the same except you
are suppose to be able to run with the X2 vs the genium. how ever i liked
the
genium better because it was lighter than the X2 and i'm to old for running.
what i did to make the X2 lighter was to cut half of the heavy knee cover
off.
the other big and most important advantage of the genium over the c-leg
was the stability and not being able to fall. which is important to me.
if i had my choice which i do, i would keep my genium over the c-leg, i'm
much more comfortable and confident with the genium.
4)I've fitted 4 Geniums to patients here in Denmark.
All been a success and the last was to an ex C-leg wearer who was very
impressed with it. My colleague has also fitted one to an ex c-leg wearer
with great success.
Their comments are really that for one they have enough stump strength to
go upstairs, that many every day activities require far less mental
ability, so they are mentally less tired, plus less physically tired.
4-5 days battery life is great to have especially if one is out of town a
couple of days, so one doesn't have to pack the charger - but this is
always a good idea as it resets the knee, just in case.
When one guy went back to try a c-leg again, he couldn't believe how
difficult it was! Far easier to walk with the Genium. A great product, can
highly recommend them.
--
Michael Arnette BOCPO, LPO
Progressive Orthotic and Prosthetic Services
www.progressiveoandp.com
9511 E. 46th St.
Tulsa OK, 74145
(918) 663 7077
(918) 724 6256
Here is most of the answers which I received from my previous post, I
apologies for the horrific spelling in my original post below (posted from
my phone).
*My original post:*
I had a question regarding the Ottobock Genium. After fitting the cleg,
having tried others, I feel like I have a candidate it for the Genium.
With the simply outstanding performance from the Cleg.technology, I am
wondering what those who have used the Genium have to say about it's
performance over the Cleg for the unilateral patient. I think I may have a
shot at fighting for reimbursement with the patient's insurance. Is the
genium worth the fight for reimbursement on an active unilateral patient?
What exactly are the benefits you have seen? Also, what has been your
experience with getting authorization through private insurance ?
* *
*The answers:*
1)I have fit three Genium knees and my patients all liked it very much. I
would certainly contact your Otto Bock rep and have them send or bring in a
demo for you to test on that patient. It is all together different. I like
it very much. I have fit more than 50 C-legs since 2001 and several other
microprocessor knees. Again, a picture is worth a thousand words....your
rep should be more than willing to help you set that up. I would make a day
out of it and demo fit anyone else you have that may be a candidate now or
in the future. I actually got a loner Genium for a few days and demoed
several patients. If the patient is coming off a c-leg then you will need
to be able to accommodate the difference in the knee top angle...it's
pretty easy, but better if you're prepared to do that before you are right
in the middle of your first demo.
2)I've delivered a couple of Geniums and do not think that there is a big
difference between it and the generation 3 Cleg. It does have a unique
feature for ascending stairs and the software simplifies programing. It has
built in Blue Tooth, a longer battery life and very cool inductive charging
system. However, it makes electronic clicking noises, very quit but
audible. Its like the C-leg but on steroids. I will still choose the C-leg
for most AK's unless they need all the bells and whistles.
3)i am an ak and have used almost all the knee units from 1950 till now.
i used the c-leg for yrs, the genium, and now the new X2 leg just being
release this year. ps: (i make all my own legs, i'm not certified, and
why i make my own is another story which i will tell you later if your
interested)
the genium vs the X2 they are supposed to be about the same except you
are suppose to be able to run with the X2 vs the genium. how ever i liked
the
genium better because it was lighter than the X2 and i'm to old for running.
what i did to make the X2 lighter was to cut half of the heavy knee cover
off.
the other big and most important advantage of the genium over the c-leg
was the stability and not being able to fall. which is important to me.
if i had my choice which i do, i would keep my genium over the c-leg, i'm
much more comfortable and confident with the genium.
4)I've fitted 4 Geniums to patients here in Denmark.
All been a success and the last was to an ex C-leg wearer who was very
impressed with it. My colleague has also fitted one to an ex c-leg wearer
with great success.
Their comments are really that for one they have enough stump strength to
go upstairs, that many every day activities require far less mental
ability, so they are mentally less tired, plus less physically tired.
4-5 days battery life is great to have especially if one is out of town a
couple of days, so one doesn't have to pack the charger - but this is
always a good idea as it resets the knee, just in case.
When one guy went back to try a c-leg again, he couldn't believe how
difficult it was! Far easier to walk with the Genium. A great product, can
highly recommend them.
--
Michael Arnette BOCPO, LPO
Progressive Orthotic and Prosthetic Services
www.progressiveoandp.com
9511 E. 46th St.
Tulsa OK, 74145
(918) 663 7077
(918) 724 6256
Citation
Michael Arnette, “Responses to Genium/Cleg comparison,” Digital Resource Foundation for Orthotics and Prosthetics, accessed November 2, 2024, https://library.drfop.org/items/show/234737.
