Re: Reply summary - state license = BOC = ABC
Gingras, Ron
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Re: Reply summary - state license = BOC = ABC
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Gingras, Ron
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8/9/2004
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How reasurring, that the ABC has required a successful completion of an
examination to get around the educational requirements previously necessary
to become ABC certified , tell that to our patients. Maybe the AMA will
accept a easier test , an elementary one of course, that will allow us to
become surgeons without medical school? ABC has become very good at walking
in the grey area loop holes of their own cannons of ethical conduct. They
make the terms Cannons or Ethical Conduct and Mark of Merit the
oxymoron's of our time.
[Gingras, Ron] -
----Original Message-----
From: Ted Trower [mailto:<Email Address Redacted>]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 11:50 AM
To: <Email Address Redacted>
Subject: Re: [OANDP-L] Reply summary - state license = BOC = ABC
My original posting was:
How many of you are aware that BOC has offered certification to all state
licensed O&P providers?
<URL Redacted>
< <URL Redacted>>
Thus now that a BOC credential is convertible to an ABC credential, every
uncredentialed practicitioner grandfathered into state licensure has a
simple and quick pathway to an ABC credential. I'm not sure that this
actually applies to very many individuals but the whole idea certainly is
irritating.
Replies follow:
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Just to make you aware of the situation. The ABC board of directors has
required anyone who wishes to cross-over from BOC to ABC to have passed an
examination. So, if an individual was licensed in a state and was
grandfathered without having to take an examination, they would NOT be
eligible for ABC certification.
Hope this clarifies the issue for you.
Steve Fletcher, CPO
Director, American Board for Certification in Orthotics and Prosthetics
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This is a glaring example why states should not tie qualifications for
licensure to certifcations when seeking state licensure. Additionally, the
cavalier attitude that ABC has exhibited to their certifees (not voting
members, and happy to tell you that) and the patients we care for, only
underlines the need for state licensure. State licensure excluding
certificatiions is the only way that patient care and your educational
credentials will not be compromised or manipulated for profit , political
reasons or just a plain old void in meaningful and prudent leadership.
We need to take on the responsiblity as practitioners for high O and P
standards of patient care individually, state by state. Time and again the
leadership of our O and P organizations have only undermined efforts to
provide this level of care.
Get behind your state organizations and work for justice in patient care,
the rest will take care of itself.
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Ted, I'm sure you will get an official response from the ABC, but the BOC to
ABC conversion is based on passage of the BOC exam not any grandfathering.
You can check with Cathy Carter at the ABC to verify this. As an aside, the
State of Illinois requires passage of the ABC exam so the conversion does
not work for an Illinois License.
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I looked into this and actually it's not quite that easy. If a state
licensed person applies and gets BOC cert based only on being state
licensed, and then applies to ABC, they must have been BOC certified
prior to the negotiations, and they must have taken and passed BOC exams
in the past. Otherwise they will still have to take the ABC exams for
ABC. Still not as stringent as ABC, but better than just mailing a
check.
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End of replies
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The comments about working for state licensure separate from certification
make a lot of sense. I just hope that there can be an effort to build some
consistency between state regulations for the sake of reciprocity.
Ted A. Trower C.P.O.
A-S-C Orthotics & Prosthetics
Jackson, Michigan, USA
www.amputee.com < <URL Redacted>>
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examination to get around the educational requirements previously necessary
to become ABC certified , tell that to our patients. Maybe the AMA will
accept a easier test , an elementary one of course, that will allow us to
become surgeons without medical school? ABC has become very good at walking
in the grey area loop holes of their own cannons of ethical conduct. They
make the terms Cannons or Ethical Conduct and Mark of Merit the
oxymoron's of our time.
[Gingras, Ron] -
----Original Message-----
From: Ted Trower [mailto:<Email Address Redacted>]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 11:50 AM
To: <Email Address Redacted>
Subject: Re: [OANDP-L] Reply summary - state license = BOC = ABC
My original posting was:
How many of you are aware that BOC has offered certification to all state
licensed O&P providers?
<URL Redacted>
< <URL Redacted>>
Thus now that a BOC credential is convertible to an ABC credential, every
uncredentialed practicitioner grandfathered into state licensure has a
simple and quick pathway to an ABC credential. I'm not sure that this
actually applies to very many individuals but the whole idea certainly is
irritating.
Replies follow:
====================================================
Just to make you aware of the situation. The ABC board of directors has
required anyone who wishes to cross-over from BOC to ABC to have passed an
examination. So, if an individual was licensed in a state and was
grandfathered without having to take an examination, they would NOT be
eligible for ABC certification.
Hope this clarifies the issue for you.
Steve Fletcher, CPO
Director, American Board for Certification in Orthotics and Prosthetics
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
This is a glaring example why states should not tie qualifications for
licensure to certifcations when seeking state licensure. Additionally, the
cavalier attitude that ABC has exhibited to their certifees (not voting
members, and happy to tell you that) and the patients we care for, only
underlines the need for state licensure. State licensure excluding
certificatiions is the only way that patient care and your educational
credentials will not be compromised or manipulated for profit , political
reasons or just a plain old void in meaningful and prudent leadership.
We need to take on the responsiblity as practitioners for high O and P
standards of patient care individually, state by state. Time and again the
leadership of our O and P organizations have only undermined efforts to
provide this level of care.
Get behind your state organizations and work for justice in patient care,
the rest will take care of itself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Ted, I'm sure you will get an official response from the ABC, but the BOC to
ABC conversion is based on passage of the BOC exam not any grandfathering.
You can check with Cathy Carter at the ABC to verify this. As an aside, the
State of Illinois requires passage of the ABC exam so the conversion does
not work for an Illinois License.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
I looked into this and actually it's not quite that easy. If a state
licensed person applies and gets BOC cert based only on being state
licensed, and then applies to ABC, they must have been BOC certified
prior to the negotiations, and they must have taken and passed BOC exams
in the past. Otherwise they will still have to take the ABC exams for
ABC. Still not as stringent as ABC, but better than just mailing a
check.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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End of replies
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The comments about working for state licensure separate from certification
make a lot of sense. I just hope that there can be an effort to build some
consistency between state regulations for the sake of reciprocity.
Ted A. Trower C.P.O.
A-S-C Orthotics & Prosthetics
Jackson, Michigan, USA
www.amputee.com < <URL Redacted>>
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Gingras, Ron, “Re: Reply summary - state license = BOC = ABC,” Digital Resource Foundation for Orthotics and Prosthetics, accessed November 26, 2024, https://library.drfop.org/items/show/223540.
