Re: ABC/BOC
Jeff Yakovich
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Re: ABC/BOC
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Jeff Yakovich
Date:
3/10/2004
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Gentlemen,
The board did give thought to the point you raised. Let me ask you a
question. You are a BOC certified practitioner. According to CMS and a
number of insurance companies, there is not difference between you and
an ABC certified practitioner. You both can bill. ABC is willing to
allow to come over as an assistant. Unless you keep your BOC
certification in good standing(pay dues to both organizations), you can
no longer bill CMS or these orther insurance as an assistant. Why
would you step down in rank from a BOC certificant to an ABC assistant.
Our conclusion as a board was that the BOC certificant would not accept
this offer. We felt that they would only join as equals.
Jeff Yakovich
ABC Secretary/Treasurer
-----Original Message-----
From: Orthotics and Prosthetics List [mailto:<Email Address Redacted>] On
Behalf Of HRA/STP
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:45 AM
To: <Email Address Redacted>
Subject: Re: [OANDP-L] ABC/BOC
Britt,
Obviously, we still don't have all the facts on this years long
discussion that the ABC board has been having about unification. I've
wondered the same thing. Why was the decision a full acceptance approach
rather than a stepped approach as you suggest? A stepped approach might
have angered more BOC certifees but it would have angered fewer ABC
practitioners. It sounds more logical. I would like to know the
discussions that the board has had on this subject. So far the
explanations given by the board members who've given one have not been
convincing to me. But then, as ABC isn't a member organization,
apparently it doesn't have to be.
Harold Anderson, CO
M. Britt Spears CPO wrote:
>Randy,
>I couldn't agree with you more with one exception. ABC should let them
in as Certified Assistants first and then allow them to take the
Certification test with no educational/experience strings attached-the
same costs we all paid, when their ready to take it, just the term
limits we all went thru. If they pass, they pass-that's great. We're all
happy and I beleive that they could see the fairness involved. That
would keep from watering down the ABC credential.
>Britt
>
>Randy McFarland < <Email Address Redacted> > wrote:
>The BOC came out and made the big public announcement that the talks
had
>broken off, instead of hanging in there trying to work things out. Soon
>thereafter, they offered to let ABC members join for free, an obvious
>ploy to undermine the ABC. I have to admit I was surprised that the ABC
>countered with a similar offer, but it appears it was in the heat of
the
>moment and they have virtually rescinded that offer.
>I suspect that the leaders of BOC didn't want to give up their power
and
>income. (Follow the money trail). They let their membership down by
>letting this opportunity to work things out with ABC slip through their
>fingers.
>There are certainly some non-ABC practitioners who have the ability to
>provide good care. Why can't we agree on a standardized test that if
>passed, would qualify for ABC certification and would also be accepted
>by licensing states? Having each state reinvent the wheel in creating a
>test seems like a waste. Perhaps different levels/qualifications of
>practitioners?
>I'm sure the ABC board members and others who have been working their
>butts off trying to work through all this are feeling pretty frustrated
>with the criticism from those who are willing to complain but haven't
>stepped up to personally support our national organizations. Of course,
>it does take dues and money to make it all happen, but many of players
>have volunteered much of their time and have tried to make good
>decisions. I admit I have reservations when suppliers have a say in who
>should be qualified to fit what, but we're all in this to varying
>degrees.
>I support the ABC and believe they gave a good faith effort negotiate
>with the BOC while supporting the standards it's practitioners want.
>Let's continue to give them our support and constructive feedback so
>they can continue of from here.
>
>Randy McFarland, CPO
>Fullerton, CA
>
>
The board did give thought to the point you raised. Let me ask you a
question. You are a BOC certified practitioner. According to CMS and a
number of insurance companies, there is not difference between you and
an ABC certified practitioner. You both can bill. ABC is willing to
allow to come over as an assistant. Unless you keep your BOC
certification in good standing(pay dues to both organizations), you can
no longer bill CMS or these orther insurance as an assistant. Why
would you step down in rank from a BOC certificant to an ABC assistant.
Our conclusion as a board was that the BOC certificant would not accept
this offer. We felt that they would only join as equals.
Jeff Yakovich
ABC Secretary/Treasurer
-----Original Message-----
From: Orthotics and Prosthetics List [mailto:<Email Address Redacted>] On
Behalf Of HRA/STP
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:45 AM
To: <Email Address Redacted>
Subject: Re: [OANDP-L] ABC/BOC
Britt,
Obviously, we still don't have all the facts on this years long
discussion that the ABC board has been having about unification. I've
wondered the same thing. Why was the decision a full acceptance approach
rather than a stepped approach as you suggest? A stepped approach might
have angered more BOC certifees but it would have angered fewer ABC
practitioners. It sounds more logical. I would like to know the
discussions that the board has had on this subject. So far the
explanations given by the board members who've given one have not been
convincing to me. But then, as ABC isn't a member organization,
apparently it doesn't have to be.
Harold Anderson, CO
M. Britt Spears CPO wrote:
>Randy,
>I couldn't agree with you more with one exception. ABC should let them
in as Certified Assistants first and then allow them to take the
Certification test with no educational/experience strings attached-the
same costs we all paid, when their ready to take it, just the term
limits we all went thru. If they pass, they pass-that's great. We're all
happy and I beleive that they could see the fairness involved. That
would keep from watering down the ABC credential.
>Britt
>
>Randy McFarland < <Email Address Redacted> > wrote:
>The BOC came out and made the big public announcement that the talks
had
>broken off, instead of hanging in there trying to work things out. Soon
>thereafter, they offered to let ABC members join for free, an obvious
>ploy to undermine the ABC. I have to admit I was surprised that the ABC
>countered with a similar offer, but it appears it was in the heat of
the
>moment and they have virtually rescinded that offer.
>I suspect that the leaders of BOC didn't want to give up their power
and
>income. (Follow the money trail). They let their membership down by
>letting this opportunity to work things out with ABC slip through their
>fingers.
>There are certainly some non-ABC practitioners who have the ability to
>provide good care. Why can't we agree on a standardized test that if
>passed, would qualify for ABC certification and would also be accepted
>by licensing states? Having each state reinvent the wheel in creating a
>test seems like a waste. Perhaps different levels/qualifications of
>practitioners?
>I'm sure the ABC board members and others who have been working their
>butts off trying to work through all this are feeling pretty frustrated
>with the criticism from those who are willing to complain but haven't
>stepped up to personally support our national organizations. Of course,
>it does take dues and money to make it all happen, but many of players
>have volunteered much of their time and have tried to make good
>decisions. I admit I have reservations when suppliers have a say in who
>should be qualified to fit what, but we're all in this to varying
>degrees.
>I support the ABC and believe they gave a good faith effort negotiate
>with the BOC while supporting the standards it's practitioners want.
>Let's continue to give them our support and constructive feedback so
>they can continue of from here.
>
>Randy McFarland, CPO
>Fullerton, CA
>
>
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Jeff Yakovich, “Re: ABC/BOC,” Digital Resource Foundation for Orthotics and Prosthetics, accessed November 6, 2024, https://library.drfop.org/items/show/222568.
