carbon fiber floor reaction AFOs - summary of responses
Leigh Davis
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Title:
carbon fiber floor reaction AFOs - summary of responses
Creator:
Leigh Davis
Date:
3/15/2017
Text:
Hello! Thank you all for your thoughtful responses! You all gave me a lot
to think about!
As one respondent said, I really think that these kids need dynamic
response orthoses. We wouldn't put active amputees in stiffer and stiffer
SACH feet, so why do we attempt a similar approach to our orthotic
clients?? Such a good point. Perhaps the posterior dynamic element
designs are the answer.
For this patient, I did move forward with a super rigid design from Kinetic
Research. 3 weeks in and so far so good - we'll see how it goes.
Here is a list of all the responses:
Specific designs and c-fab recommendations. Number of recommendations in
parentheses:
- Kinetic Research (11)
- Phat (6)
- Custom Composites (6)
- Motion Unlimited (4)
- Otto Bock Carbon ankle 7 (4)
- Fab Tech (3)
- Freedom Fabrication (3)
- PolyPro Texas Turbos (2)
- Dynamic Bracing Solutions
- Ortho Baltic
- Coyote Dynamic strut braces
- Jim Skardutos C-fab
- BPM Fabrication
- Custom toe off/blue rocker
- Shadow Brace by Becker
Other recommendations:
- Articulated with Becker joints and fabricated by Motion Unlimited
- If you're not making it out of prepreg carbon stop while you're
ahead. If so run a flat foot plate from mid foot forward with a minimum of
3 layers 2 bi and 1 uni sandwiched between increase # of uniti increase
stillness build in toe spring to reduce volume in shoe.
- Consider increasing/extending the A-P length around ankle/failure
points: these contours often do not need to follow patient's anatomy.
Extend these as far anterior and/or posterior as footwear permits.
- consider using pre preg composites to manufacture your AFO's, not
lamination. You get a much strong, lighter and thinner result
- Curbell Plastics
- Talk to the makers of Rush Feet
- Reinforce with Ultra g brace (carbon only)
- 1/4 ProComp carbon infused polypropylene
Again, thank you so much! Looking forward to continuing the conversation,
Leigh Davis
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Leigh Davis < <Email Address Redacted> >
> >Sent: Jan 24, 2017 2:45 PM
> >To: <Email Address Redacted>
> >Subject: [OANDP-L] carbon fiber floor reaction AFOs
> >
> >Hello!
> >I am in the middle of a project making floor reaction AFOs for an active
> 13
> >year old male with Spina Bifida. He has been wearing floor reactions for
> >many years, and has broken an impressive number of them. Now that he's
> 110
> >lbs and 52, I'm trying to switch him to a carbon fiber construction.
> >We made him a set here that he walked great in, but he broke them at the
> >ankle, forefoot (even though the forefoot is sulcus length) and at the
> heel
> >within 1 week.
> >
> >I still feel this is the right design for him, but I'm looking for some
> >advice with either of the following:
> >
> > - What lay up do you recommend if we were to try again at our in house
> > lab?
> > - Is there a central fab you've had success with for laminated floor
> > reaction AFOs?
> >
> >
> >Thank you for your time and assistance!
> >
> >Leigh Davis, CPO
> >
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to think about!
As one respondent said, I really think that these kids need dynamic
response orthoses. We wouldn't put active amputees in stiffer and stiffer
SACH feet, so why do we attempt a similar approach to our orthotic
clients?? Such a good point. Perhaps the posterior dynamic element
designs are the answer.
For this patient, I did move forward with a super rigid design from Kinetic
Research. 3 weeks in and so far so good - we'll see how it goes.
Here is a list of all the responses:
Specific designs and c-fab recommendations. Number of recommendations in
parentheses:
- Kinetic Research (11)
- Phat (6)
- Custom Composites (6)
- Motion Unlimited (4)
- Otto Bock Carbon ankle 7 (4)
- Fab Tech (3)
- Freedom Fabrication (3)
- PolyPro Texas Turbos (2)
- Dynamic Bracing Solutions
- Ortho Baltic
- Coyote Dynamic strut braces
- Jim Skardutos C-fab
- BPM Fabrication
- Custom toe off/blue rocker
- Shadow Brace by Becker
Other recommendations:
- Articulated with Becker joints and fabricated by Motion Unlimited
- If you're not making it out of prepreg carbon stop while you're
ahead. If so run a flat foot plate from mid foot forward with a minimum of
3 layers 2 bi and 1 uni sandwiched between increase # of uniti increase
stillness build in toe spring to reduce volume in shoe.
- Consider increasing/extending the A-P length around ankle/failure
points: these contours often do not need to follow patient's anatomy.
Extend these as far anterior and/or posterior as footwear permits.
- consider using pre preg composites to manufacture your AFO's, not
lamination. You get a much strong, lighter and thinner result
- Curbell Plastics
- Talk to the makers of Rush Feet
- Reinforce with Ultra g brace (carbon only)
- 1/4 ProComp carbon infused polypropylene
Again, thank you so much! Looking forward to continuing the conversation,
Leigh Davis
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Leigh Davis < <Email Address Redacted> >
> >Sent: Jan 24, 2017 2:45 PM
> >To: <Email Address Redacted>
> >Subject: [OANDP-L] carbon fiber floor reaction AFOs
> >
> >Hello!
> >I am in the middle of a project making floor reaction AFOs for an active
> 13
> >year old male with Spina Bifida. He has been wearing floor reactions for
> >many years, and has broken an impressive number of them. Now that he's
> 110
> >lbs and 52, I'm trying to switch him to a carbon fiber construction.
> >We made him a set here that he walked great in, but he broke them at the
> >ankle, forefoot (even though the forefoot is sulcus length) and at the
> heel
> >within 1 week.
> >
> >I still feel this is the right design for him, but I'm looking for some
> >advice with either of the following:
> >
> > - What lay up do you recommend if we were to try again at our in house
> > lab?
> > - Is there a central fab you've had success with for laminated floor
> > reaction AFOs?
> >
> >
> >Thank you for your time and assistance!
> >
> >Leigh Davis, CPO
> >
> > ********************
> >To unsubscribe, send a message to: <Email Address Redacted> with
> >the words UNSUB OANDP-L in the body of the
> >message.
> >
> >If you have a problem unsubscribing,or have other
> >questions, send e-mail to the moderator
> >Paul E. Prusakowski,CPO at <Email Address Redacted>
> >
> >OANDP-L is a forum for the discussion of topics
> >related to Orthotics and Prosthetics.
> >
> >Public commercial postings are forbidden. Responses to inquiries
> >should not be sent to the entire oandp-l list. Professional credentials
> >or affiliations should be used in all communications.
>
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Paul E. Prusakowski,CPO at <Email Address Redacted>
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should not be sent to the entire oandp-l list. Professional credentials
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Citation
Leigh Davis, “carbon fiber floor reaction AFOs - summary of responses,” Digital Resource Foundation for Orthotics and Prosthetics, accessed November 23, 2024, https://library.drfop.org/items/show/254589.