Re: one more thought on abc
David T. Hughes
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Re: one more thought on abc
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David T. Hughes
Date:
3/7/2004
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Mister Yakovich,
You and the rest of the board members have sold us out, so stop
making excuses! Your right , something should have been done. But it
should have been to lobby the government to see a difference between
ABC and BOC. Or at least let the people that this decision would
effect. Instead, you said nothing to us and the let them in the back
door. When I was taking my last prosthetic test we were guaranteed
that the would be a difference kept between ABC and BOC. Some defining
mark in the books. ABC lied. ABXC set the pay rate for a resident and
stated that it must be in an ABC approved site. These are few and far
between, and basically cheap labor mills. ABC has molded my life due
to the choices I have been forced to make. Make BOC pay for my student
loans, make them take tests and pay $1350.00, make them fly cross
country to go to school and take tests. And maybe I will like it a
little more.
See you in court
David T. Hughes JR
Board eligible Prosthetist (two test passed-still waiting (for three
months-crazy) for the last test results before I can make any further
plans)
Resident Orthotist. ( I don't know if I will waist any further money to
pass tests that mean squat anymore)
****I think everyone should just stop paying ABC dues and join BOC!!!
On Sunday, March 7, 2004, at 08:04 AM, Jeff Yakovich wrote:
> Jason,
>
> I'm not replying directly to you but to all those whose post echo your
> sentiment. First of all. let me assure you that you're passion and
> feeling
> about our field is no different than what all the ABC board members
> share.
> Let me point out that every current ABC board member, with the
> exception of
> our public members, have gone though the same pathway as you. There
> are
> certain facts you must keep in mind.
>
> Like it or not, the federal government as well as most major payers do
> not
> differentiate between ABC or BOC credentials. It's sad but it's a
> fact.
> Because of the size and division in our field, we have not been able
> to come
> forward with a unified voice and look at what has happened. We now
> have a
> fee freeze from CMS, competitive bidding is now a reality, our field is
> being encroached upon by PT's and OT's, and our spinal codes have been
> reclassified and the reimbursement levels slashed. These are only a
> few
> examples of what's taken place over the past few years.
>
> I'm not saying that a unified voice would have prevented all this but
> obviously our division did not. To stand back and do nothing will
> allow the
> further demise of our field. Is this the right thing or not, only
> time will
> tell. But at least we are doing something. Our hope was a
> unification of
> the two creditialling bodies. When the BOC board of directors were
> unwilling to document in writting what they verbally agreed to, it
> became
> apparent that futher negotiations unnecessary.
>
> I am sick of the all posts indicating that all the education current
> ABC
> certifies attained is for nothing. As Orthotist and Prosthetists, you
> are
> charged with providing the highest quality O & P care you possibly
> can. Do
> you not feel that the education you received along with completion of
> your
> formal residency and passing the most rigorous exams have best
> prepared you?
> I've been certified since 1980. I have a bachelors degree and took a
> formal
> residency before one was required. Why did I do this, because I felt
> it
> prepared me to be the best Orthotist I could be. I feel they patients
> I
> treat deserve no less.
>
> In 22 or the 24 years I've been certified, I've been in management
> positions. When I fill an open position for a certified orthotist or
> prosthetist, I don't just look at their title. I look into their
> educational background and training as well as previous experience.
> Do you
> not think your training and education would separate you from others
> seeking
> the same position. Our patients are requesting more information on
> individuals treating them with regards to education and training.
> Jason,
> what you have achieved separates you among others. If you and others
> want
> more public recognition for your past education, add more letters
> after your
> name and include your college degree.
>
> Again Jason, I'm not replying directly to your post but to all those
> with
> similar content.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Jeffrey I. Yakovich, B.Sc., C.O., L.O.
> ABC Board of Directors, Secretary Treasurer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Frisch, Jason, Co < <Email Address Redacted> >
> To: < <Email Address Redacted> >
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 7:16 AM
> Subject: [OANDP-L] one more thought on abc
>
>
>> If all abc members were to join boc, could we not then elect a
>> previous
> abc member or 3 to the board and begin some type of educational reform
> for
> incoming members while lobbying the governmenrt for recognition of
> only boc
> based on specific points and educational merits. Granted it would take
> time
> but boc would have the power that abc has wanted all along and members
> of
> boc have a vote. AOPA, NCOPE and everyone else could work with boc,
> and abc
> will disappear over the next five years like the NY organization. We
> have
> our unification. Although not easily done, it is feasible with
> appropriate
> support and planning.
>>
>> If abc does not want other ideas like this posted then pull your
>> heads out
> of your rearends and get with the program. If you're going to let in
> boc
> then make them pass the darn abc tests and pay the fees and waive the
> dues
> for 1 year.
>>
>> Respectful as I can possibly be,
>> Jason Frisch, abc CO
>>
>>
You and the rest of the board members have sold us out, so stop
making excuses! Your right , something should have been done. But it
should have been to lobby the government to see a difference between
ABC and BOC. Or at least let the people that this decision would
effect. Instead, you said nothing to us and the let them in the back
door. When I was taking my last prosthetic test we were guaranteed
that the would be a difference kept between ABC and BOC. Some defining
mark in the books. ABC lied. ABXC set the pay rate for a resident and
stated that it must be in an ABC approved site. These are few and far
between, and basically cheap labor mills. ABC has molded my life due
to the choices I have been forced to make. Make BOC pay for my student
loans, make them take tests and pay $1350.00, make them fly cross
country to go to school and take tests. And maybe I will like it a
little more.
See you in court
David T. Hughes JR
Board eligible Prosthetist (two test passed-still waiting (for three
months-crazy) for the last test results before I can make any further
plans)
Resident Orthotist. ( I don't know if I will waist any further money to
pass tests that mean squat anymore)
****I think everyone should just stop paying ABC dues and join BOC!!!
On Sunday, March 7, 2004, at 08:04 AM, Jeff Yakovich wrote:
> Jason,
>
> I'm not replying directly to you but to all those whose post echo your
> sentiment. First of all. let me assure you that you're passion and
> feeling
> about our field is no different than what all the ABC board members
> share.
> Let me point out that every current ABC board member, with the
> exception of
> our public members, have gone though the same pathway as you. There
> are
> certain facts you must keep in mind.
>
> Like it or not, the federal government as well as most major payers do
> not
> differentiate between ABC or BOC credentials. It's sad but it's a
> fact.
> Because of the size and division in our field, we have not been able
> to come
> forward with a unified voice and look at what has happened. We now
> have a
> fee freeze from CMS, competitive bidding is now a reality, our field is
> being encroached upon by PT's and OT's, and our spinal codes have been
> reclassified and the reimbursement levels slashed. These are only a
> few
> examples of what's taken place over the past few years.
>
> I'm not saying that a unified voice would have prevented all this but
> obviously our division did not. To stand back and do nothing will
> allow the
> further demise of our field. Is this the right thing or not, only
> time will
> tell. But at least we are doing something. Our hope was a
> unification of
> the two creditialling bodies. When the BOC board of directors were
> unwilling to document in writting what they verbally agreed to, it
> became
> apparent that futher negotiations unnecessary.
>
> I am sick of the all posts indicating that all the education current
> ABC
> certifies attained is for nothing. As Orthotist and Prosthetists, you
> are
> charged with providing the highest quality O & P care you possibly
> can. Do
> you not feel that the education you received along with completion of
> your
> formal residency and passing the most rigorous exams have best
> prepared you?
> I've been certified since 1980. I have a bachelors degree and took a
> formal
> residency before one was required. Why did I do this, because I felt
> it
> prepared me to be the best Orthotist I could be. I feel they patients
> I
> treat deserve no less.
>
> In 22 or the 24 years I've been certified, I've been in management
> positions. When I fill an open position for a certified orthotist or
> prosthetist, I don't just look at their title. I look into their
> educational background and training as well as previous experience.
> Do you
> not think your training and education would separate you from others
> seeking
> the same position. Our patients are requesting more information on
> individuals treating them with regards to education and training.
> Jason,
> what you have achieved separates you among others. If you and others
> want
> more public recognition for your past education, add more letters
> after your
> name and include your college degree.
>
> Again Jason, I'm not replying directly to your post but to all those
> with
> similar content.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Jeffrey I. Yakovich, B.Sc., C.O., L.O.
> ABC Board of Directors, Secretary Treasurer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Frisch, Jason, Co < <Email Address Redacted> >
> To: < <Email Address Redacted> >
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 7:16 AM
> Subject: [OANDP-L] one more thought on abc
>
>
>> If all abc members were to join boc, could we not then elect a
>> previous
> abc member or 3 to the board and begin some type of educational reform
> for
> incoming members while lobbying the governmenrt for recognition of
> only boc
> based on specific points and educational merits. Granted it would take
> time
> but boc would have the power that abc has wanted all along and members
> of
> boc have a vote. AOPA, NCOPE and everyone else could work with boc,
> and abc
> will disappear over the next five years like the NY organization. We
> have
> our unification. Although not easily done, it is feasible with
> appropriate
> support and planning.
>>
>> If abc does not want other ideas like this posted then pull your
>> heads out
> of your rearends and get with the program. If you're going to let in
> boc
> then make them pass the darn abc tests and pay the fees and waive the
> dues
> for 1 year.
>>
>> Respectful as I can possibly be,
>> Jason Frisch, abc CO
>>
>>
Citation
David T. Hughes, “Re: one more thought on abc,” Digital Resource Foundation for Orthotics and Prosthetics, accessed November 7, 2024, https://library.drfop.org/items/show/222748.
