Re: ABC/BOC Merger
tony barr
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Re: ABC/BOC Merger
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tony barr
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3/8/2004
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Jim,
Encouraging to see so much participation of dialoge and support of a third
pathway to education via regulation on the listserve. Often times it takes
great contraversy to recognize a wake up call.
As Donnie Priest recently pointed out in his recent post, your suggestion of
crossing over to BOC maybe dangerous ,premature and deplete further from the
little education infrastructure the profession has left provided by the
CAAHEP accreditation program for the schools and NCOPE to the end product
accreditation requirements being changed.
The Academy's survival as a legitimate professional (?) association is
also in question with the desertion proposals set forth by the
Hatfields(ABC) and the McCoys(BOC).
I have wondered why AAOP publically supported the proposed unification
discussions without first analyzing the potential domino effect it may have
on the little legitimacy the profession association has remaining, i.e..
CAAHEP accreditation, NCOPE and any possibility of obtaining a higher
quality of education in the field thru college degree programs.
I, as curious onlooker and O&P reform advocate for 30 years, have to wonder
why the Academy did not have better vision and take on a more active role on
the future of the O&P profession, on several fronts:
1) supporting the unification proposal discussions
<URL Redacted> publically
since November, yet sent a unsigned post on March 5th claiming a 90 day
moratorium on additional memberships after the s... hit the fan March 4th.
2)How the announcement of the breakdown in the unification communication
between the two associations coincidently occurred 3 days after the national
Academy Meeting in New Orleans ?
3) Why discussions and updates of the proposed unification process were not
presented in the post Neg Reg meeting agenda at the Academy Meeting and the
Town Hall Meetings in New Orleans?
4) Speaking of letters behind one's name.
Why the Academy continues to not only remain apathetic in their lack of
support and advocacy to individual state regulation efforts, which would not
only stop the alphabet soup wars and bring desperately needed unity and
legitimacy to the profession.
The Academy apparently does not require that all licensed provider
designations,LP, LO,LPO, etc. to the FAAOP members in 10 states, be placed
next to their names, (as mandated and requireed by law in most of the state
regulation acts), on the licensed name badges at the past Academy meeting
nor does ABC encourage nor require the appropriate designations to licensed
individuals in the 2003 ABC Registry in spite of them providng all of the 10
state examinations excluding Texas.
5)Was the trade off AOPA(which incidentally also carries the profession's
(Academy) support to Capitol Hill) in supporting competitive bidding
scenario, in lieu of a payment freeze, fair to the profession ?
AOPA's claim was they were dragged into the payment freeze issue because
of the DME proposal.
What happened is you got both, for DME and O&P, since the perception is the
DME includes O&P.
What national association(professional or industry) is responsible for
educating lawmakers that O&P practitioners provide a service and patient
care and not just product and retail services? AOPA -whom have DME and O&P
providers in their membership. And you wonder why Medicare and the OIG put
O&P in the same bag as DME !?
Did anyone stop to think that the recent break down of unification
communications and free crossover membership solicitations provided by
both maybe of been conceived as a united strategy by (?) to further alienate
both certified practitioners from one another?
This may very well be the final wake up call for the profession to get
regulated.
The Academy could help come to the rescue of both credentialing associations
and the need to be better recognized as a united and legitimate profession,
or at least stand up to your membership and make a statement regarding the
recent exploitations of both.
Take past Academy president and AAOP's current chairman of the legislative
advocacy committee, Gary Lamb's lead as quoted in the O&P Business New Feb
15,2004 edition.
Any state without licensure has no standing.
This (price freeze) reinforces the need to separate (O&P) from DME.
But on the other hand Gary isn't a manufacture of DME as some Academy board
members maybe!
Will the current Academy President Donald Katz CO, LO, take the lead
although he claims that everyone drinks from the same well?
Many questions ,very few honest answers.
There does seem to be one common thread though- (ABC & AOPA)in Virginia, is
apparently not separated enough by their respective suite # 200 and 210 at
330 John Carlye Street by the mystic Potomac River ? !
Apparently AOPA's birth of ABC driven by the FTC in 1948, never qualified
the industry as empty nesters!
-----Original Message-----
From: Orthotics and Prosthetics List [mailto:<Email Address Redacted>] On
Behalf Of Jim DeWees
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:56 PM
To: <Email Address Redacted>
Subject: [OANDP-L] ABC/BOC Merger
The decision is obvious to me, I will be sending in my paperwork to BOC
tomorrow and will be joining their ranks. My ABC membership is good until
the end of this year, and I wll see what kind of crap they pull over the
next 9 months. I would strongly encourage every ABC practitioner to do the
same. Keep dual certification this year, and when December comes around,
write a letter to ABC and tell them that they failed us and do not deserve
our money.
As far as Mr. Yakovich's comments about putting more letters behind your
name, what a joke. By putting CP behind my name, that used to mean there
was a BS, BS, MS, etc. there.
Again, I feel that we should ALL take the BOC offer and join them. If at
the end of this year ABC proves to us that they are incompetent of governing
this organization, then we just don't pay them our dues. What the heck,
next year if we see we made a mistake, we could probably re-join ABC for
$25.
Just my thoughts on a Sunday night.
Jim DeWees, CP (and NOT the $75 variety CP)
Encouraging to see so much participation of dialoge and support of a third
pathway to education via regulation on the listserve. Often times it takes
great contraversy to recognize a wake up call.
As Donnie Priest recently pointed out in his recent post, your suggestion of
crossing over to BOC maybe dangerous ,premature and deplete further from the
little education infrastructure the profession has left provided by the
CAAHEP accreditation program for the schools and NCOPE to the end product
accreditation requirements being changed.
The Academy's survival as a legitimate professional (?) association is
also in question with the desertion proposals set forth by the
Hatfields(ABC) and the McCoys(BOC).
I have wondered why AAOP publically supported the proposed unification
discussions without first analyzing the potential domino effect it may have
on the little legitimacy the profession association has remaining, i.e..
CAAHEP accreditation, NCOPE and any possibility of obtaining a higher
quality of education in the field thru college degree programs.
I, as curious onlooker and O&P reform advocate for 30 years, have to wonder
why the Academy did not have better vision and take on a more active role on
the future of the O&P profession, on several fronts:
1) supporting the unification proposal discussions
<URL Redacted> publically
since November, yet sent a unsigned post on March 5th claiming a 90 day
moratorium on additional memberships after the s... hit the fan March 4th.
2)How the announcement of the breakdown in the unification communication
between the two associations coincidently occurred 3 days after the national
Academy Meeting in New Orleans ?
3) Why discussions and updates of the proposed unification process were not
presented in the post Neg Reg meeting agenda at the Academy Meeting and the
Town Hall Meetings in New Orleans?
4) Speaking of letters behind one's name.
Why the Academy continues to not only remain apathetic in their lack of
support and advocacy to individual state regulation efforts, which would not
only stop the alphabet soup wars and bring desperately needed unity and
legitimacy to the profession.
The Academy apparently does not require that all licensed provider
designations,LP, LO,LPO, etc. to the FAAOP members in 10 states, be placed
next to their names, (as mandated and requireed by law in most of the state
regulation acts), on the licensed name badges at the past Academy meeting
nor does ABC encourage nor require the appropriate designations to licensed
individuals in the 2003 ABC Registry in spite of them providng all of the 10
state examinations excluding Texas.
5)Was the trade off AOPA(which incidentally also carries the profession's
(Academy) support to Capitol Hill) in supporting competitive bidding
scenario, in lieu of a payment freeze, fair to the profession ?
AOPA's claim was they were dragged into the payment freeze issue because
of the DME proposal.
What happened is you got both, for DME and O&P, since the perception is the
DME includes O&P.
What national association(professional or industry) is responsible for
educating lawmakers that O&P practitioners provide a service and patient
care and not just product and retail services? AOPA -whom have DME and O&P
providers in their membership. And you wonder why Medicare and the OIG put
O&P in the same bag as DME !?
Did anyone stop to think that the recent break down of unification
communications and free crossover membership solicitations provided by
both maybe of been conceived as a united strategy by (?) to further alienate
both certified practitioners from one another?
This may very well be the final wake up call for the profession to get
regulated.
The Academy could help come to the rescue of both credentialing associations
and the need to be better recognized as a united and legitimate profession,
or at least stand up to your membership and make a statement regarding the
recent exploitations of both.
Take past Academy president and AAOP's current chairman of the legislative
advocacy committee, Gary Lamb's lead as quoted in the O&P Business New Feb
15,2004 edition.
Any state without licensure has no standing.
This (price freeze) reinforces the need to separate (O&P) from DME.
But on the other hand Gary isn't a manufacture of DME as some Academy board
members maybe!
Will the current Academy President Donald Katz CO, LO, take the lead
although he claims that everyone drinks from the same well?
Many questions ,very few honest answers.
There does seem to be one common thread though- (ABC & AOPA)in Virginia, is
apparently not separated enough by their respective suite # 200 and 210 at
330 John Carlye Street by the mystic Potomac River ? !
Apparently AOPA's birth of ABC driven by the FTC in 1948, never qualified
the industry as empty nesters!
-----Original Message-----
From: Orthotics and Prosthetics List [mailto:<Email Address Redacted>] On
Behalf Of Jim DeWees
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:56 PM
To: <Email Address Redacted>
Subject: [OANDP-L] ABC/BOC Merger
The decision is obvious to me, I will be sending in my paperwork to BOC
tomorrow and will be joining their ranks. My ABC membership is good until
the end of this year, and I wll see what kind of crap they pull over the
next 9 months. I would strongly encourage every ABC practitioner to do the
same. Keep dual certification this year, and when December comes around,
write a letter to ABC and tell them that they failed us and do not deserve
our money.
As far as Mr. Yakovich's comments about putting more letters behind your
name, what a joke. By putting CP behind my name, that used to mean there
was a BS, BS, MS, etc. there.
Again, I feel that we should ALL take the BOC offer and join them. If at
the end of this year ABC proves to us that they are incompetent of governing
this organization, then we just don't pay them our dues. What the heck,
next year if we see we made a mistake, we could probably re-join ABC for
$25.
Just my thoughts on a Sunday night.
Jim DeWees, CP (and NOT the $75 variety CP)
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tony barr, “Re: ABC/BOC Merger,” Digital Resource Foundation for Orthotics and Prosthetics, accessed November 6, 2024, https://library.drfop.org/items/show/222585.
