Fw: Re: [OANDP-L] continuation:

Fw: Re: [OANDP-L] continuation:

Anthony T. Barr

1/16/2003

Can anyone provide me a reply to the below!
> > What price does the third party payer and Medicare pay for this liner?
> > Could you provide me with the L-code reimbursement # for the liners
> > described below!
> > Thank you,
> > Tony
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Lebbad < <Email Address Redacted> >
> > To: < <Email Address Redacted> >
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 6:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [OANDP-L] continuation:
> >
> >
> > > Justin, You do make quite a few good points! Problem is no one wants
to
> > > Give in. Our peers have had rough times and giving up any revenue,
> even
> > > though for years those revenues have bordered on obscene, is hard to
> > > swallow.
> > >
> > > I will give you something else to add to this equation however. I have
> > been
> > > shown that Silicone liners, (Alphas, Silipose etc) cost between
$25.00
> &
> > > $40.00 each to manufacture. My lowest cost on any is $205.00 each!
> > >
> > > Who is going to give in first!
> > >
> > > L.Vincent Lebbad RTP
> > > Owner Tech-Master CF
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Justin Foster < <Email Address Redacted> >
> > > To: < <Email Address Redacted> >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 PM
> > > Subject: [OANDP-L] continuation:
> > >
> > >
> > > > OK, one more try...
> > > >
> > > > This is not about hurting our own pocketbooks, or taking money away
> from
> > > our
> > > > families, or being a poor businessman. I think that reducing
overhead,
> > and
> > > > subsequently reducing O&P payments is a good goal...
> > > >
> > > > If, as so many have pointed out to me, the reason we have to charge
> > $3500
> > > is
> > > > to keep the $1500 item on the shelf while we make the prosthesis,
and
> so
> > > the
> > > > user can wear it for 90 more days until we get paid... then how
about
> > > having
> > > > the person wear a demo or used foot until we get paid, then order
the
> > foot
> > > > and fit it. We can then reduce the reimbursement because we haven't
> had
> > to
> > > > prepay by 90-120 days on the foot.... even saving a few hundred
> dollars
> > > is
> > > > GREAT!!! That money only went to pay for the foot in advance, and
> served
> > > no
> > > > other purpose but to cover us on the next guy's foot. That is the
> waste
> > I
> > > am
> > > > talking about, and trying to find a way to eliminate. Additionally,
> that
> > > is
> > > > just the foot of the iceberg if you will... repeating this process
> on
> > > all
> > > > modular componentry might save us and our patients (through the
> > > > corresponding copay reduction) even a little bit of money, while
still
> > > > providing the manufacturers with the incentive to develop new
> > technologies
> > > > (as their prices would remain similar).
> > > >
> > > > We are going to have to cut costs at some point, shouldn't we at
least
> > > > attempt to be proactive and dictate our own future?
> > > >
> > > > Don't tell me I am stupid, or childish, or that this is not a
> > > chat-room...
> > > > tell me I am wrong, and why, and give us all your ideas so we can
run
> > them
> > > > through. It is time to brainstorm, not to browbeat each other into
> > > silence.
> > > > Idealism is what keeps me going in a strange world.
> > > >
> > > > Justin Foster
> > > > Prosthetic Resident
> > > > Unemployed?!?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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