Coding dilemma?
Michael P Madden
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Title:
Coding dilemma?
Creator:
Michael P Madden
Date:
3/29/2002
Text:
I would like to submit the following question to the list for
consideration. I will beg your pardon from the outset if this begins to
get to long, but please...it is an important issue from where I am...SO
HERE GOES...
I am presently in a conversation with a couple of local insurance
company's about coding in general, ie base code & add-on codes and
combining the two when describing a complete device. Unfortunately
because of recent past events with a local O&P facility, these insurance
company's have a knee jerk reaction and assume fraud &/or abuse
(unbundling...double billing) when they see numerous codes applied to a
single device. Especially if that device is manufactured by an
outside company (GII, CTi, Townsend etc...etc...), and not made in house
. .I have made significant head way in my discussions with them, and have
been able to maintain a very civil and professional conversation with
them as we have discussed specific coding issues, but there are some
significant sticking points.
The insurance companies are taking the position that if I purchase a
device with the add-on characteristics already included in the
manufactured device, then I cannot use add-on codes to be reimbursed for
those additional characteristics above the base code descriptor, because
they are already existent in the manufactured item when I receive it.
Specifically... just one example... they are taking the position that the
use of the L2275, L2755 are acceptable add-on codes with a GII Select,
but the use of the L2435 is not, because the orthosis comes with that
joint. Since the orthosis comes with that joint already on the
orthosis, I cannot use the L2435 when describing the complete device.
Yet if I fabricate an L1844, and add a polycentric joint to the system
during the in-house manufacturing, then they will allow the L2435 add-on.
(Maybe I'm onto something here?) Typical insurance company logic? I
maintain that the L2435 cost is rolled into the cost I am paying for the
orthosis when I buy it from the manufacturer...passed on if you will.
One of the insurance companies is telling me that GII specifically stated
that it does not support the use of L2435 with their brace?
My argument with the insurance companies is that it doesn't matter what
ANY manufacturer says, that it is based on the legal language of the
L-codes, which is determined by Medicare, and that I am ultimately
responsible for the correct application of the codes per the devices
provided. They yield to the fact that they will hold me responsible for
the codes I use, and not the manufacturer whether they recommend the
codes or not. The L1844 base code does not describe a polycentric joint,
rather it describes an adjustable flexion/extension joint, thus using the
L2435 code (whether I manufacture the orthosis, or pay someone to
manufacture it for me) is an appropriate add-on as long as there is a
polycentric joint included in the system. Ultimately I am absorbing the
cost of having the polycentric joint included in the system, whether I
put it in, or a manufacturer does. I have maintained that if the
characteristic is not included in the base code description as defined by
Medicare, and it is medically necessary, then the add-on is appropriate.
This was confirmed for me during an informal conversation at an L-coding
seminar, specifically per the GII...but...the insurance company is
telling me GII is saying NOT APPROPRIATE.
AM I TOTALLY OFF MY ROCKER HERE !!!!!!
I am gradually moving up the feeding chain of these insurance companies,
and actually am having conversations with the powers that be and
ultimately will decide my coding fate....
A side line wrench in the works is that the local CTi rep, & local Don
Joy rep, were allowed by one of the insurance companies to provide the
orthosis for just the base code price, thus receiving referrals from
the insurance company. I know this to be true because the insurance
company questioned my use of add-on's with my orthosis because the reps
only bill at base code prices, so why should we have patients go to
you.(and they specifically mentioned DJ & CTi, and our local GII guy
told me he turned their offer down !!)
any help, confirmation, correction, per the aforementioned would be
greatly appreciated...
Mike M.
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consideration. I will beg your pardon from the outset if this begins to
get to long, but please...it is an important issue from where I am...SO
HERE GOES...
I am presently in a conversation with a couple of local insurance
company's about coding in general, ie base code & add-on codes and
combining the two when describing a complete device. Unfortunately
because of recent past events with a local O&P facility, these insurance
company's have a knee jerk reaction and assume fraud &/or abuse
(unbundling...double billing) when they see numerous codes applied to a
single device. Especially if that device is manufactured by an
outside company (GII, CTi, Townsend etc...etc...), and not made in house
. .I have made significant head way in my discussions with them, and have
been able to maintain a very civil and professional conversation with
them as we have discussed specific coding issues, but there are some
significant sticking points.
The insurance companies are taking the position that if I purchase a
device with the add-on characteristics already included in the
manufactured device, then I cannot use add-on codes to be reimbursed for
those additional characteristics above the base code descriptor, because
they are already existent in the manufactured item when I receive it.
Specifically... just one example... they are taking the position that the
use of the L2275, L2755 are acceptable add-on codes with a GII Select,
but the use of the L2435 is not, because the orthosis comes with that
joint. Since the orthosis comes with that joint already on the
orthosis, I cannot use the L2435 when describing the complete device.
Yet if I fabricate an L1844, and add a polycentric joint to the system
during the in-house manufacturing, then they will allow the L2435 add-on.
(Maybe I'm onto something here?) Typical insurance company logic? I
maintain that the L2435 cost is rolled into the cost I am paying for the
orthosis when I buy it from the manufacturer...passed on if you will.
One of the insurance companies is telling me that GII specifically stated
that it does not support the use of L2435 with their brace?
My argument with the insurance companies is that it doesn't matter what
ANY manufacturer says, that it is based on the legal language of the
L-codes, which is determined by Medicare, and that I am ultimately
responsible for the correct application of the codes per the devices
provided. They yield to the fact that they will hold me responsible for
the codes I use, and not the manufacturer whether they recommend the
codes or not. The L1844 base code does not describe a polycentric joint,
rather it describes an adjustable flexion/extension joint, thus using the
L2435 code (whether I manufacture the orthosis, or pay someone to
manufacture it for me) is an appropriate add-on as long as there is a
polycentric joint included in the system. Ultimately I am absorbing the
cost of having the polycentric joint included in the system, whether I
put it in, or a manufacturer does. I have maintained that if the
characteristic is not included in the base code description as defined by
Medicare, and it is medically necessary, then the add-on is appropriate.
This was confirmed for me during an informal conversation at an L-coding
seminar, specifically per the GII...but...the insurance company is
telling me GII is saying NOT APPROPRIATE.
AM I TOTALLY OFF MY ROCKER HERE !!!!!!
I am gradually moving up the feeding chain of these insurance companies,
and actually am having conversations with the powers that be and
ultimately will decide my coding fate....
A side line wrench in the works is that the local CTi rep, & local Don
Joy rep, were allowed by one of the insurance companies to provide the
orthosis for just the base code price, thus receiving referrals from
the insurance company. I know this to be true because the insurance
company questioned my use of add-on's with my orthosis because the reps
only bill at base code prices, so why should we have patients go to
you.(and they specifically mentioned DJ & CTi, and our local GII guy
told me he turned their offer down !!)
any help, confirmation, correction, per the aforementioned would be
greatly appreciated...
Mike M.
________________________________________________________________
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Citation
Michael P Madden, “Coding dilemma?,” Digital Resource Foundation for Orthotics and Prosthetics, accessed November 7, 2024, https://library.drfop.org/items/show/218527.
