Re: Stock$Bill responses(sorry about error) Part 1

Re: Stock$Bill responses(sorry about error) Part 1

Joe Sansone

7/17/2001

I beg to differ but Breg does participate in stock and bill programs in San
Antonio and Houston Texas.
Joe Sansone
C.E.O.
TMC Orthopedic
www.tmcortho.com

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> I am not includiong original post. Responses are not edited but senders
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> My summary is at end of part 3. List serve limits each post to 200 lines.
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> Ralph: It is an old problem. Good luck.
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>
> Please post all replies as we have also seen a large increase in this type
> of
> service. We have been called to deliver in the hospital only to have the
> sales
> rep go to the patient's home to deliver the same type of item. Patient
> then
> calls and says they don't want ours and they don't want to be double
> billed.
> The
> hospital has already been billed. We considered this not our problem at
> this
> point, as it was delivered and signed for by the patient, as ordered by
> the
> doctor/hospital.
>
> We are also seeing referrals only on HMO contracts not given to the sales
> reps. Several years ago we were approached by the sales force to bill
> for
> items they delivered either to physician offices or patient's home. We
> declined
> due to fraud and liability on delivery - not seeing the patient at all.
> You
> are
> right - it is very convenient for the patient. We have seen physicians
> switch
> product brands at a drop of a hat and not just once.
>
> We also feel a office visist charge is added to the patients bill, as well
> as
> the
> distributor getting that fee. We have found the physician is charging
> about
> 50%
> more for the same brace, but unsure what they get paid since it goes
> through
> the
> reps. billing account.
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> What area of Florida are you in Ralph? I know of some cases in the
> Orlando area of the stock and bill arrangements. To be more specific,
> Breg
> does not participate in the stock and bill. Don Joy and EBI are two
> companies that are. Maybe it should be posted which companies are and are
> not. Your letter generalizes Breg in the program. You are right,
> something
> should be done!
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> Hello Ralph--- This type of practice has been going on in my area for
> about 5
> years now.I'm sure initially, I was just as mad as you are right now.But,
> my
> facility was atleast able to put in a quote or proposal to do this work.We
> just lost out to the bigger guys!!!! The same guys coming around selling
> to
> us.I just stopped buying from them.It forced us into useing other
> companies...The company that won the contract, and that has had it all 5
> years is EBI.Not sure if your formiliar with them, but, that are into soft
> goods mainly.But, they also have there own Knee brace( rigid).
> I'm starting to ramble, but,this seems to be the trend.My market just
> seems
> to be ahead of yours.If any questions, you are more than welcome to call.
> I
> know I did not answer alot of your questions, but, call if you want to
> talk!!!
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> Suggest that you forward this to kathy dodson at AOPA, MD closets are a
> favorite subject of hers.
> It is my understanding that medicare has a few opinions too.
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> Saga continues in Part 2
>
> Ralph W Nobbe CPO
>
>