Re: 90 Degree posterior stop
Cobb James P SSgt 81 MSGS/SGCO
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Title:
Re: 90 Degree posterior stop
Creator:
Cobb James P SSgt 81 MSGS/SGCO
Date:
1/18/2001
Text:
1. I replied to all because ALL needed to hear.
2. You have confused professional with practioner. All people in the O&P
industry that have patient interaction MUST be a professional. If you can
not conduct yourself as a professional then there is no need for you in the
industry.
3. I am not trying to distinguish myself from anyone. I identified a
professional issue and handled it. I, not at anytime, questioned his
credentials.
4. People do need not treat the peers with respect. Credentialed
Practitioners deserve and demand professional respect. BUT, that does
not automatically open the door for downward communication and/or disrespect
to anyone from them. The only person whom I will allow to downward
communicate to me is my boss and his boss and those above him. (and wife)
(joke)
5. And yes, I earn my living as an orthotist.
6. Who are you to pass judgement on anyone without talking to,
interviewing, or being some governing official.
7. As far as the spelling, It's hard to concentrat on spelling while seeing
patients and also while having to deal with people like you. I will respect
your credentials but not you as a person.
8. I'm sure you'll pick this message apart as well.
9. How dare you even assume you know anything about me or my education.
That is wrong and yes unprofessional. The word assume equates to judge.
You judged me and assumed my position, credentials, and education. I leave
off my credentials as not to be judged. Just remember to please be
professional in your interactions. Thus the name professional. Thus the
act of being professional. Thus the topic of my discussion. I never opened
up the Credential can of worms. People like you do, always!!!
James Cobb
A Professional (like most in our industry)
-----Original Message-----
From: <Email Address Redacted> [mailto:<Email Address Redacted>]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:15 AM
To: <Email Address Redacted>
Subject: Re: [OANDP-L] 90 Degree posterior stop
James:
First of all any replies should be done by hitting the reply button not
the
reply all button.
I am a product of the military. I began as a PFC in a 1 year OJT in Bracing
and Artificial limbs. All the names of departments and practice areas have
since evolved (Orthotics, Prosthetics, etc.) I reached the Specialist 5
level in 2 years served as a staff orthotist and prosthetists for 2 years
after I completed the OJT but I never considered myself a professional. I
attended NYU and worked 4 years under a certified Orthotist and another 2
years under a certified prosthetist before I could sit for the ABC exam.
When I became certified I finally thought of myself as a professional.
I do not wish to be disrespectful, but what, I ask, has changed to give you
the idea that you are a professional? A professional must earn his/her
living on the profession he/she has chosen. In the military I would be paid
no matter what job they gave me. I was not earning my living as an
orthotist
or prosthetist. And neither, I submit, are you. This does not mean you are
or are not the best practitioner who ever lived. Credentials mean something.
Check out your spelling below, education is important.
Robert N. Brown, Sr., CPO, FAAOP
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In a message dated 1/18/01 10:47:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
<Email Address Redacted> writes:
There is really no need to get personal on this list serve.
I could be wrong, and have been before, but I felt this e-mail was to open
up this discussion to see variances in the field. You never know, some
tech. might learn something from us talking professionaly on this
informative lest serve.
Now it's time for me to contradict myself and get personal. It's
egotistical attitudes and personal remarks such as yours that hurts our
industry.
We all need to treat each other as Para-professionals v/s ranking, judging
or stereotyping. Why do O&P practitioners tear each other apart. All I
hear is, I went to this school, you only went to that one. I had a
residency and you didn't.
This is not elementary school, this is a medical profession in which we all
need to stick together. I've been reading this listing for a while now.
There are allot of ego's out there and absolutely zero tact behind them. I
wouldn't talk to a dog like some of the Practitioners talk about each other
here. Where is common human respect gone to? I get more professional
respect from Ortho-Pods and Neuro Docs than I get from some practitioners.
At a time when this market is extremely unstable and we all need to inform
and empower each other; negativity, animosity, and pessimisty has absoutley
no place in this industry. Yes, I do understand some have worked harder to
achieve their goals and attended many years of school nad alot that did not.
There are areas in our industry that need to be ironed out. However, it
will only get worse because we (as an industry) need to get our ducks in a
row. Patient care first, always, no exception. Secondly, self
preservation. We need to protect ourselves, our recourses, get clearer laws
and legislation (written by unbiased and informed individuals). There are
allot of young students and residents who look to us professionals for
mentoring and guidance. Practitioners need to act like professionals and
communicate like professionals, and make their personal problems private and
quit making our industry look like a bunch of whiny babies pointing fingers
at everything or everyone that doesn't put a pacifier in their mouth.
That is my two cents,
I can't wait to see all the negative responses I get!!!!
James Cobb
Staff Orthotist
Keesler Medical Center
Keesler Air Force Base Mississippi
2. You have confused professional with practioner. All people in the O&P
industry that have patient interaction MUST be a professional. If you can
not conduct yourself as a professional then there is no need for you in the
industry.
3. I am not trying to distinguish myself from anyone. I identified a
professional issue and handled it. I, not at anytime, questioned his
credentials.
4. People do need not treat the peers with respect. Credentialed
Practitioners deserve and demand professional respect. BUT, that does
not automatically open the door for downward communication and/or disrespect
to anyone from them. The only person whom I will allow to downward
communicate to me is my boss and his boss and those above him. (and wife)
(joke)
5. And yes, I earn my living as an orthotist.
6. Who are you to pass judgement on anyone without talking to,
interviewing, or being some governing official.
7. As far as the spelling, It's hard to concentrat on spelling while seeing
patients and also while having to deal with people like you. I will respect
your credentials but not you as a person.
8. I'm sure you'll pick this message apart as well.
9. How dare you even assume you know anything about me or my education.
That is wrong and yes unprofessional. The word assume equates to judge.
You judged me and assumed my position, credentials, and education. I leave
off my credentials as not to be judged. Just remember to please be
professional in your interactions. Thus the name professional. Thus the
act of being professional. Thus the topic of my discussion. I never opened
up the Credential can of worms. People like you do, always!!!
James Cobb
A Professional (like most in our industry)
-----Original Message-----
From: <Email Address Redacted> [mailto:<Email Address Redacted>]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:15 AM
To: <Email Address Redacted>
Subject: Re: [OANDP-L] 90 Degree posterior stop
James:
First of all any replies should be done by hitting the reply button not
the
reply all button.
I am a product of the military. I began as a PFC in a 1 year OJT in Bracing
and Artificial limbs. All the names of departments and practice areas have
since evolved (Orthotics, Prosthetics, etc.) I reached the Specialist 5
level in 2 years served as a staff orthotist and prosthetists for 2 years
after I completed the OJT but I never considered myself a professional. I
attended NYU and worked 4 years under a certified Orthotist and another 2
years under a certified prosthetist before I could sit for the ABC exam.
When I became certified I finally thought of myself as a professional.
I do not wish to be disrespectful, but what, I ask, has changed to give you
the idea that you are a professional? A professional must earn his/her
living on the profession he/she has chosen. In the military I would be paid
no matter what job they gave me. I was not earning my living as an
orthotist
or prosthetist. And neither, I submit, are you. This does not mean you are
or are not the best practitioner who ever lived. Credentials mean something.
Check out your spelling below, education is important.
Robert N. Brown, Sr., CPO, FAAOP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In a message dated 1/18/01 10:47:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
<Email Address Redacted> writes:
There is really no need to get personal on this list serve.
I could be wrong, and have been before, but I felt this e-mail was to open
up this discussion to see variances in the field. You never know, some
tech. might learn something from us talking professionaly on this
informative lest serve.
Now it's time for me to contradict myself and get personal. It's
egotistical attitudes and personal remarks such as yours that hurts our
industry.
We all need to treat each other as Para-professionals v/s ranking, judging
or stereotyping. Why do O&P practitioners tear each other apart. All I
hear is, I went to this school, you only went to that one. I had a
residency and you didn't.
This is not elementary school, this is a medical profession in which we all
need to stick together. I've been reading this listing for a while now.
There are allot of ego's out there and absolutely zero tact behind them. I
wouldn't talk to a dog like some of the Practitioners talk about each other
here. Where is common human respect gone to? I get more professional
respect from Ortho-Pods and Neuro Docs than I get from some practitioners.
At a time when this market is extremely unstable and we all need to inform
and empower each other; negativity, animosity, and pessimisty has absoutley
no place in this industry. Yes, I do understand some have worked harder to
achieve their goals and attended many years of school nad alot that did not.
There are areas in our industry that need to be ironed out. However, it
will only get worse because we (as an industry) need to get our ducks in a
row. Patient care first, always, no exception. Secondly, self
preservation. We need to protect ourselves, our recourses, get clearer laws
and legislation (written by unbiased and informed individuals). There are
allot of young students and residents who look to us professionals for
mentoring and guidance. Practitioners need to act like professionals and
communicate like professionals, and make their personal problems private and
quit making our industry look like a bunch of whiny babies pointing fingers
at everything or everyone that doesn't put a pacifier in their mouth.
That is my two cents,
I can't wait to see all the negative responses I get!!!!
James Cobb
Staff Orthotist
Keesler Medical Center
Keesler Air Force Base Mississippi
Citation
Cobb James P SSgt 81 MSGS/SGCO, “Re: 90 Degree posterior stop,” Digital Resource Foundation for Orthotics and Prosthetics, accessed November 1, 2024, https://library.drfop.org/items/show/215606.